
Mark Finley
I
first came in contact with Mark Finley in his role as a
playwright, when he mounted his play The Mermaid with the
theater company called the Other Side of Silence II (affectionately
known as TOSOS), where he is artistic director. I wasn't
unduly surprised to learn, during my time around that project,
that Finley also directs-as in other fields with limited
resources, no one can afford the blinders of a specialist.
But the good noises his peers continually made about his
talents piqued my curiosity.
I
was finally afforded the opportunity to see his work when
he took the reins of Ross MacLean's Follies of Grandeur,
which recently played at Theater for the New City. With
the show fresh in mind, I sat down with Finley to discuss
his views on directing for Off-Off-Broadway, his take on
the current state of the theater, and the pleasures of sitting
outside a stage door in pink pajamas.
Offoffonline.com:
How did you get into directing?
Finley:
I went to North Carolina School of the Arts for acting, then
got involved in a theater company called the Native Aliens
Theater
Collective.
One day, a friend of mine gave me a book called Young Stowaways
in Space to look at. It was a young-adult science fiction
book written-in 1962?-for boys between the ages of 12 and
15. It blew me away how homoerotic, how sexist this thing
was. It had to be seen. I figured that, rather than hand it
to a director and say, "This is what I want, blah, blah,
blah," I would try to direct it myself. So I came up
with a framing device for it and basically staged the book.
Was
there something about the material that made you want to take
that step?
MF:
It was the way it was written. It wasn't just the dialogue.
The dialogue was bad enough. It wasn't written to be spoken.
If you tried to make it the way a human would talk, it would
just be dumb, instead of amazingly, spectacularly, charmingly
dumb. I hope this doesn't get back to the author.
So
that was your first full-scale production as a director?
MF:
Yeah. I mean, I probably should've started with a simple,
little three-character Chekhov or something, where nobody
really moves, instead of moving nine people-who are onstage
most of the time together-through outer space.
So yeah, I kind of started as a late sophomore/early junior
and not a freshman at directing. But I fell in love with it
right away. As an actor, you can only control your performance,
if that. As a writer, you control even less; you control the
word on the page, then you just kind of throw it into the
ocean and hope somebody gets it. As a director, you're absolutely
responsible for what the audience sees. I love that.
Thinking
about the arc of things you've chosen to direct, is there
something in particular that you look for in a script?
MF:
I always look for humor. Also, the thing I love about Follies
is the total humanity of the characters. I certainly had never
seen this story told in this way, in such a theatrical, forgiving,
human way. Nonsexual, nonexploitive.
Even the topless moments are nonsexual.
A
testament to your skill, I guess.
MF:
[Laughs] I guess. So the quick answer would be: first,
humor, then humanity. With this one, I'm also walking away
going, "Wow, I really kind of realize why I like to work
on comedy more," because it's just more fun.
Because
comedy generally has a higher energy?
I think it's just less depressing. If you're working on a
show, it's a world you have to live in 24/7, and my release
is humor, not drama. So I would much rather live in a wacky,
kooky, nutty place than a very important, serious place for
eight hours a day. Personal preference.
How
do you view the state of Off-Off-Broadway today?
MF:
When I first came to New York in 1987, Off-Off was literally
a showcase land for people to get seen, to maybe get cast
in stuff. Now-and this was evidenced last year with the
IT [Innovative Theater] Awards-Off-Off-Broadway is so
much more diverse. It's so much more than little groups of
people getting together and saying, "Let's do Sam Shepard's
Red Cross for two weekends and try to get some agents
in." It's people forming theater companies and putting
seasons together, trying to make a go of it. There are institutions
out there that have always been doing that: La MaMa, P.S.
122. But companies like Emerging
Artists Theater and Women Seeking… have established
a watermark of "this is what we do." And people
seek that out, and I think that's great.
What
are your ambitions for the future? Is there something you're
pushing toward?
MF:
I want to be able to direct full time, all the time. Everywhere,
anywhere.
Would
you say that you have a philosophy that you adhere to in your
directing?
MF:
The way I approach a project came from my friend John Reese,
whom I worked with on a project in Virginia a few years back.
He stepped up and said, "O.K., this is how this works:
I do my work, you do your work, then we work together, then
we go home." Sounds pretty basic, but you'd be amazed
how many people don't or can't adhere to that.
So
hands-on?
MF:
Yeah. This is going to sound really arty-farty, but I like
to feel like I'm building a machine with my actors that I
can leave and they can drive. Often, I've had actors come
up to me after a production and say, "You know, when
those lights go up, I feel like I'm stepping on a roller coaster
and we just come out at the other side." And I'm like,
"Good, that's how it should be." I'm not a fan of
lolling around on the floor. It's not my thing.
Do
you have a story that epitomizes what Off-Off-Broadway is
for you?
MF:
I don't know if this is a funny story or anything. I'd stopped
acting for a while, and a friend had gotten me into a production
of Pillow Talk, with Native Aliens [Theater Collective].
It was a stage adaptation of the movie, and I played Doris
Day. I didn't do it in drag; I dyed my hair and I ran around
in pink pajamas through the whole thing.
We had one matinee performance. It was early in the run and
it was raining, so it was very lightly attended, and I'm sitting
on the fire escape just out of the rain-I had maybe three
scenes where I'm not onstage-just sitting there in my little
pink pajamas and I'm like, "What the hell am I doing
here? I'm in an almost empty theater on a rainy day in the
middle of the spring, but I'm just so happy to be here. I
don't even know why. I'm just so damn happy to be here."